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		<title>By: hunter</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2125</link>
		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey girl -- I think you&#039;ve conflated the city of Philadelphia, I know brotherly love and all that, with the &quot;union&quot;. Do you even know which &quot;union(s)&quot; you are talking about? I didn&#039;t think so. Philadelphia is a surly city -- it&#039;s got to be the armpit of the human condition, at least in the U.S., no make that the world. I have traveled a bit and never felt as on edge and in a constant state of paranoia -- people spitting on you, glaring at you, just generally unhappy that you are occupying their space. I am thinking that you might have a tough time getting seated in Philly on Sunday by a church usher?

All that being said, the Reading Station Market rocks. Food was an instant, and effective, antidote to the social distress. Just don&#039;t step back outside after a bowl of snapper soup without re-securing your headgear! It was like HG Wells&#039; Time Machine -- in the market you could observe the Eloi evolving, but outside the Morlock&#039;s reigned. Very scary.

Perchance you had fallen under the spell of seeing what you were told you would see? Did you know the Marriot was a non-union hotel? And that&#039;s where most of the logistics challenges were encountered. Don&#039;t blame the union, blame the event planners or somebody else. Don&#039;t think they are unionized?

Anyway, we all know that an organization gets the workforce it deserves. Organizations take years to carefully cultivate a culture of boredom, resentment, entitlement, and applied apathy. When the crop is ready for harvest the union steps in to take it to market. No, don&#039;t blame the union. That&#039;s way too convenient.

For shame, in the month of May, to decry the unions for your first big city experience in a while. You&#039;ve been out west a long time now haven&#039;t you?

Workers of the World Unite. Come the Revolution baby! I think you lost your religion a long time ago.

h

p.s. My flight arrived back home 40 minutes early!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey girl &#8212; I think you&#8217;ve conflated the city of Philadelphia, I know brotherly love and all that, with the &#8220;union&#8221;. Do you even know which &#8220;union(s)&#8221; you are talking about? I didn&#8217;t think so. Philadelphia is a surly city &#8212; it&#8217;s got to be the armpit of the human condition, at least in the U.S., no make that the world. I have traveled a bit and never felt as on edge and in a constant state of paranoia &#8212; people spitting on you, glaring at you, just generally unhappy that you are occupying their space. I am thinking that you might have a tough time getting seated in Philly on Sunday by a church usher?</p>
<p>All that being said, the Reading Station Market rocks. Food was an instant, and effective, antidote to the social distress. Just don&#8217;t step back outside after a bowl of snapper soup without re-securing your headgear! It was like HG Wells&#8217; Time Machine &#8212; in the market you could observe the Eloi evolving, but outside the Morlock&#8217;s reigned. Very scary.</p>
<p>Perchance you had fallen under the spell of seeing what you were told you would see? Did you know the Marriot was a non-union hotel? And that&#8217;s where most of the logistics challenges were encountered. Don&#8217;t blame the union, blame the event planners or somebody else. Don&#8217;t think they are unionized?</p>
<p>Anyway, we all know that an organization gets the workforce it deserves. Organizations take years to carefully cultivate a culture of boredom, resentment, entitlement, and applied apathy. When the crop is ready for harvest the union steps in to take it to market. No, don&#8217;t blame the union. That&#8217;s way too convenient.</p>
<p>For shame, in the month of May, to decry the unions for your first big city experience in a while. You&#8217;ve been out west a long time now haven&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Workers of the World Unite. Come the Revolution baby! I think you lost your religion a long time ago.</p>
<p>h</p>
<p>p.s. My flight arrived back home 40 minutes early!</p>
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		<title>By: Arturo</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2124</link>
		<dc:creator>Arturo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also need to add that what I experienced and witnessed was not an isolated case. I was at the convention center in Boston for 4 days and I can tell you that more than once I was using the restroom and there were two employees using the restroom as a place to hide and chat for at least 20 minutes. If that was their break time, fine. But I don&#039;t think the restroom is what their management suggests as the place to take their alloted breaks.
Cheers, Arturo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also need to add that what I experienced and witnessed was not an isolated case. I was at the convention center in Boston for 4 days and I can tell you that more than once I was using the restroom and there were two employees using the restroom as a place to hide and chat for at least 20 minutes. If that was their break time, fine. But I don&#8217;t think the restroom is what their management suggests as the place to take their alloted breaks.<br />
Cheers, Arturo</p>
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		<title>By: Arturo</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2123</link>
		<dc:creator>Arturo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes, Susan, my first job was as a janitor. I&#039;m not without a soul. I was bothered that I didn&#039;t have the privacy of using the bathroom at a convention center because two employees used the bathroom to visit with each other. I understood everything they were talking about, it was in my first language. I&#039;m not elitist in any sense. Part of me wanted them to go back to work so that I could use the facilities, and another part of me wanted them to go back to work or at least go quietly about their business. I don&#039;t blog while at work. I do check personal email from time to time, yes.
Cheers,
Arturo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes, Susan, my first job was as a janitor. I&#8217;m not without a soul. I was bothered that I didn&#8217;t have the privacy of using the bathroom at a convention center because two employees used the bathroom to visit with each other. I understood everything they were talking about, it was in my first language. I&#8217;m not elitist in any sense. Part of me wanted them to go back to work so that I could use the facilities, and another part of me wanted them to go back to work or at least go quietly about their business. I don&#8217;t blog while at work. I do check personal email from time to time, yes.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Arturo</p>
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		<title>By: cody</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2122</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you make an excellent point, ovo.

I worked in a needle factory once (quit after one day) and found it mind-numbing and depressing.  But it did give me a better appreciation for the work lives of others.

Like most mature organizations, many unions have lost their way - but the need for collective bargaining still exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you make an excellent point, ovo.</p>
<p>I worked in a needle factory once (quit after one day) and found it mind-numbing and depressing.  But it did give me a better appreciation for the work lives of others.</p>
<p>Like most mature organizations, many unions have lost their way &#8211; but the need for collective bargaining still exists.</p>
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		<title>By: (0v0)</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2121</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. Just one more thought since it feels non-preachy to say this and since blue collar workers are not here to say it.

Today I started a list of things I was free to do as an office worker (program assistant in a business school at age 23) that I was not free to do as an assembly line and dock worker (unionized summer jobs in college). It was a long list, including things like go to the bathroom, take a phone call, sit down while working, leave work to vote in public elections, and say no to overtime without automatically losing my job. So different from how I relate to work now... it&#039;s hard to empathize even 8-10 years later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. Just one more thought since it feels non-preachy to say this and since blue collar workers are not here to say it.</p>
<p>Today I started a list of things I was free to do as an office worker (program assistant in a business school at age 23) that I was not free to do as an assembly line and dock worker (unionized summer jobs in college). It was a long list, including things like go to the bathroom, take a phone call, sit down while working, leave work to vote in public elections, and say no to overtime without automatically losing my job. So different from how I relate to work now&#8230; it&#8217;s hard to empathize even 8-10 years later.</p>
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		<title>By: (0v0)</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2120</link>
		<dc:creator>(0v0)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! Exciting question!!!

The Big Squeeze by Steven Greenhouse.

He&#039;s such a unique and knowledgeable (and good) writer, and the book is being hailed as a crucial piece of historiography of our era. Great research, both broad and personal, pro-business and able to take workers&#039; POV.

Here&#039;s Robert Frank&#039;s review in the NYT last Sunday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/25/books/review/Frank-t.html?_r=1&amp;ref=business&amp;oref=slogin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! Exciting question!!!</p>
<p>The Big Squeeze by Steven Greenhouse.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s such a unique and knowledgeable (and good) writer, and the book is being hailed as a crucial piece of historiography of our era. Great research, both broad and personal, pro-business and able to take workers&#8217; POV.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Robert Frank&#8217;s review in the NYT last Sunday.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/25/books/review/Frank-t.html?_r=1&#038;ref=business&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/25/books/review/Frank-t.html?_r=1&#038;ref=business&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2119</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, don&#039;t worry about losing your religion. The way things are going around here, people will soon be flocking to religion en masse. Somebody will happily take up your religious slack!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, don&#8217;t worry about losing your religion. The way things are going around here, people will soon be flocking to religion en masse. Somebody will happily take up your religious slack!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2118</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read &lt;a href=&quot;http://maxbarry.com/jennifergovernment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jennifer Government&lt;/a&gt;. It doesn&#039;t have anything to do with unions but it&#039;s entertaining.

I don&#039;t think the bored worker sydrome is caused by anything unique to unionization. It comes from limitations imposed upon individuals, whether by their own doing or by environmental factors, like family or ethnic culture or whatever. Maybe unions exacerbate problems by keeping workers stagnant in defined roles but that pigeonholing happens in non-unionized corporate environments too. People that don&#039;t get to do what they think they should do, and who opt to perform some kind of non-ideal job so that they can earn a living, ultimately will get bored with the job. Personal sacrifice to expediency only gets a person so far in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read <a href="http://maxbarry.com/jennifergovernment/" rel="nofollow">Jennifer Government</a>. It doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with unions but it&#8217;s entertaining.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the bored worker sydrome is caused by anything unique to unionization. It comes from limitations imposed upon individuals, whether by their own doing or by environmental factors, like family or ethnic culture or whatever. Maybe unions exacerbate problems by keeping workers stagnant in defined roles but that pigeonholing happens in non-unionized corporate environments too. People that don&#8217;t get to do what they think they should do, and who opt to perform some kind of non-ideal job so that they can earn a living, ultimately will get bored with the job. Personal sacrifice to expediency only gets a person so far in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: donutszenmom</title>
		<link>http://donutszenmom.com/2008/05/26/union/comment-page-1/#comment-2117</link>
		<dc:creator>donutszenmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to blame -- I&#039;m just finding it hard to try to understand. It seems like the unions are playing a zero sum game with management, and I&#039;m not sure how that will help workers -- especially when you factor in outsourcing and globalization.

I know my perspective is very limited. Any reading suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to blame &#8212; I&#8217;m just finding it hard to try to understand. It seems like the unions are playing a zero sum game with management, and I&#8217;m not sure how that will help workers &#8212; especially when you factor in outsourcing and globalization.</p>
<p>I know my perspective is very limited. Any reading suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: (0v0)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hesitate to blame the union for this. Rationalization and fine-grained division of labor are complex social processes and often the dark side of technological advancement. White collar and blue collar are different worlds.

For what it is worth, the two main organizational changes that have most alienated hotel workers recently-- first, the establishment of two tier benefit systems by which newer workers (who are more recent, less &quot;white&quot; arrivals--Italians and Irish were not seen as white during the Industrial era, but became whitened through the union-helped process of middle class growth, same way Latinos are not QUITE seen as white now) get fewer benes, and second the increase in work demands without increase in paid hours to do them--have been corporate led. These are demands corporations have inserted in to new contracts across the board in the past 5 years. What do you do? Work-process slowdown--the weapon of the weak--is a centuries-old response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hesitate to blame the union for this. Rationalization and fine-grained division of labor are complex social processes and often the dark side of technological advancement. White collar and blue collar are different worlds.</p>
<p>For what it is worth, the two main organizational changes that have most alienated hotel workers recently&#8211; first, the establishment of two tier benefit systems by which newer workers (who are more recent, less &#8220;white&#8221; arrivals&#8211;Italians and Irish were not seen as white during the Industrial era, but became whitened through the union-helped process of middle class growth, same way Latinos are not QUITE seen as white now) get fewer benes, and second the increase in work demands without increase in paid hours to do them&#8211;have been corporate led. These are demands corporations have inserted in to new contracts across the board in the past 5 years. What do you do? Work-process slowdown&#8211;the weapon of the weak&#8211;is a centuries-old response.</p>
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